up at my hunting camp the loggers tore up the roads pretty bad and we had a guy drive in with a ford and he got stuck. we called other people with fords (should have known better) to try to get the 1st one out (a 250 and a 350, both diesel 4x4's) and they both got stuck. we finally got the 250 and 350 out and they left bcuz they didn't want to get stuck anymore. We had to bring in my dad's friend's chevy to get the 1st ford out. so there you have it fords suck and are only worth however much gas you have in them. CHEVY RULES