Nomercy, I know you said carbine and tommy-gun. But for reference, I hunt at one of my stands swith a Glock 21, .45ACP. From a lot of range shooting I know the rounds drop 2 to 3 inches at 50 yds and about 9 at 100 yds. I limit my shot to 30 yds with this piece not only because of the loss of punch past 50 yds but also I shoot with Patrigde sights. And it doesn't take a lot of wind to throw the bullet way off after 30 yds. I'm no ballistics expert. This is just what I experience with this particular piece.