I realize that I don't have too many posts on here. I am just now able to come back to the sight to post. I was on this site about 2 years ago under another name. I don't think I ever witnessed an arguement on here like this though. The fact is people like different bows. We all shoot different bows. I do think all of you top of the line bows are pretty much equal. I shoot a Bowtech right now and love the way it shoots, but I will always have an open mind to others. Lefse, I also commend you for coming back to explain yourself. I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you were just informing us that you have no shop with the bowtech line in it. Maybe you should go to their website and see if there are any other shops in the area where you could try the new Liberty model. It has a very smooth draw cycle and the 80% letoff you mentioned.