I hate to sound like a broken record but, I too, can vouch for the effectiveness of ASAT. I hunt in south Texas and was wanting camo that was not as dark as many of the patterns are. I read about ASAT on this site and decided to try it. After hunting in it this past weekend I can say it works VERY well. On a couple of instances I had deer walk within 10 yards of me and had no idea I was there (including the nice 8-point I got). I just bought a long sleeve t-shirt so I could layer underneath with whatever the weather called for (not much chance of rain in south TX). I am now considering the 3-D leafy suit by ASAT. Give it a try. Get the suit and never be seen.