Too bad we can't just shoot these tree stand thieves . [:@] My son and I took a teenage friend hunting as someone had stolen his chain-on stand that he hadn't locked up. The kid said he was pretty sure he knows who took the stand but cannot prove it. You can buy a decent chain-on for $30 and I am aware that the climbers are alot more. I bought a collapsable ladder for $160. It weighs 25# and telescopes to 12 1/2' . I chain my stands to the trees and no one is going to steal one unless he/she carries a ladder along. I strap the collapsed ladder (3' ) to an old lawn spreader and wheel it to any of the stands. [8D]