I got my new bow today, a Hoyt vipertec. It's as smooth as silk underwear! I'm shooting a three inch group at 20 yrds in a half hour. I have to thank John Wolf at J and J archery lake hopatcong NJ. Not only did he do a great job setting it up, he also gave me a great price. All the other shops prices were about $650. - I got the bow for $575. at J and J. Great people to work with!