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Old 12-17-2003 | 02:03 PM
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Default RE: Passing up BUCKS.... sometimes, i wonder what the POINT IS

ORIGINAL: Rack-attack

How obvious does it have to be??????

This is a super example of how you knock down other peoples trophies. Hunters that sacrifice for years and try to establish a healthy age structure to better get a chance at a good buck are really not shooting a trophy according to you
I haven't knocked anyone's trophy at all........I am just telling it like it is. If you let a deer walk by 20 times in his life he doesn't magically get smarter one day...........he is only alive because you let him live, not because of his smarts or craftiness. This illusion that EVERY 4 year old deer is Albert Einstein and moves through the woods like a Navy Seal is a little extreme don't ya think. If that deer was so smart and woods savy he would not have walked by you 20 times in the first place. A deer that walks across a busy highway 20 times gets dead......the smart ones that learn quickly to avoid the highway or traffic will live to see another day because of their skills......not someone elses charity.

A deer that has learned through experience how to avoid the human assault is much more likely to avoid being killed the longest. Even their luck runs out someday but many other deer will be taken before anyone finds where they hide.

Ever watch Caribu hunts on The Outdoor Channel?? They fly into places that the Caribu have never seen people and they don't get hunted hardly at all. Some of them stand there and stare at the hunters trying to figure out what they are because they don't see hunters very much. Now if those things got hunted HARD every year you can bet your arse that herd would develope a keen sense of human presence and bolt when saw the first signs of people invading the shores.


– Not a trophy like you got – that’s a real trophy.
Thanks man


Your deer are the smartest.
Never said that........a lot of them are dumb. I would say they are more scared then smart. I will take my chances with a smart deer......the scared ones?? Who knows where, when or if they will ever stop running??


All bucks are dumb at 1.5 to 2.5 years old – letting them walk makes them NO easier to hunt when they are 4.5 yrs old.
But letting them walk makes them smarter?? Why?? If he never knew he was in danger of being killed how will he learn to be more careful?? Is there a deer college out there that I don't know about where they all go at age 3 to get their Masters in sneakiness??


If you had more experience with it you would know that
You try to hide what you really want to say so well We can't all be as great as you are Rack.


No – you are not really insulting anyone
Then stop saying that I am


Of course you never miss the opportunity to tell the hunter in Iowa that his 150 is not a trophy like your deer.
Show me a post I made unprovoked in any manner where I blast a hunter for taking a 150" deer because it isn't a trophy like mine.

P.S.......I lived in Iowa for 4 years......and a 150 class buck is nice but it ain't gonna get too many locals all stirred up if ya know what I mean.......they are after the BIG boys out there bro. Very nice deer none the less.......but jaw dropping great???........nope.


Ahh – unlike yours that is the biggest ever shot in your area.
That's right.........he was the biggest. Thanks again Rack


Funny how a guy who hunts for meat and states “it doesn’t matter what you have only what I have” is so concerned about what is on others walls.
I don't care what is on their walls......I care what's on mine. If I saw deer just like him over every fireplace in town he would just be another deer in a crowd.........but he isn't and that makes him EXTRA special. They are all still good deer. You know yourself if you've ever seen the travelling shows of giant racks that one always sticks out in your eye and you remember it for it's uniqueness in either size or structure.......for my woods that's my guy. I'm not going to downgrade his stature just for you or anyone else. He is what he is and I can't change that.


Again what you are saying is if someone shoots big deer in an area where big deer are shot – then their trophy is not a trophy – just another buck in the crowd. Unlike yours, of course
Whether or not it's a trophy is up to the hunter that took it. Hell I have killed a bunch of does I consider trophies because of how I took them so I am not gonna say anything isn't a trophy. It's simple Rack.......take my deer to Kansas and ask people if it's a trophy hoss buck and they will laugh at you. Because for that area he isn't. Just like a basket rack isn't a trophy big boy around here but in Florida all my dad's neighbors think he is Grizzly Adams the great deer slayer. Comparing deer from different herds is no way to decide his stature as a trophy because my buck in Kansas is a nice little guy that needs some more corn and a few more seasons.......around here he is a legend and in Florida he would be a god. The deer's standing in his own herd is a much better indicator IMO of how special he is. If you can go out tomorrow and see another one just like him by 9:00 am then he isn't very unique for that area now is he??? If however compared to the usual deer seen and taken he is head and shoulders above the rest and stands out from all others then no matter what size he is.............he is special.

A 10 lb Largemouth Bass is special.........unless you are fishing in a pond with tons of 10 pounders and a couple 15 pounders and one big ol' lunker near 20 lbs.............now your 10 pounder is still a really good fish but compared to what's in the pond he is just average.



Once again it is not good enough for you to state how proud you are of your great deer – But you always have to knock others in the same breathe because he doesn’t hunt in your badlands.
You are mistaking my pride in my deer for putting others down. Along with a lot of other things My emphasis on how special my deer was to take has nothing to do with putting other hunters down for not doing the equivalent in their woods. First of all I am sure many have. You just don't get it Rack. It's a real shame that you can't look at someone expressing genuine pride in taking a truely once in a blue moon deer without thinking they have some secret axe to grind against others.


From how much you post about what a trophy is in your eyes – and how many times you lessen the accomplishment of those that shoot trophies in better land than you have.
Where did I do this again?? You are now really making $hit up as you go along. I never lessen anyone's accomplishment except the pseudo farm Zelazny thread discussion and that is not relevant to normal hunting conditions.


I can only conclude that you do wish you were one – or all these quotes would not exist.
Wish I was what???.......a trophy hunter or as good a hunter as you???

Your ego is out of control man. You sit at your PC and really think everyone out there wishes they could be like you??

Time for a reality check dude.
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