You have lost Stealthycat
Rarely do I lose Cougar. I never lost on abortion, I never lost on when life begins and I am not losing now. Why ? Because I debate this and other issues thoroughly and have for a long time. I know your stance, I even HAD your stance at one time and argued on it until I realized I couldn't even answer simple questions - a lot like you are right now.
Now, I say I haven't "lost" but I might well "have lost IT" ... I cant prove that one way or the other !