Ill say this look at all the hunting shows, how many of those hunts are at fenced in ranches, alot but who want s to watch someone shoot a spike or doe or 4pt people watch these shows to see big deer get killed. I agree most of these guys you see on TV cant hunt worth a crap, i would love for them to come to where i hunt and kill a 150 and up, wont happen, but I am not gonna knock them for it,