Thanks for the info HANKFAN! My ladder stand got stolen this year and so far while still hunting, ground hunting, I have not seen any bucks with an irregular STEEL rack, prancing around, yet. If I do I"ll be sure to notify B & C and P & Y that they should start a new category for scoring bucks. Dang, maybe that's the BIG BOY that has been rubbing those big trees I've been so curious about lately. Huntin! What a life!!!!!!