Thanks for all the ideas. I have heard good things about the Razor, but have yet to see any pictures. We don't really have a Martin Dealer here in Ontario, not one that has any size to it. They do seem to be putting together bows that shoot well, though I don't know how they're current strategy fits with fingers. I'll have to check it out. They seem to be trying to eliminate all nock wonder, which takes the designs in certian directions that make a lot of sense, but one wonders whether they make sense for finger shooters. If your string is going to flop all over the place, would the shoot through design be worthe the loading hassle?