Originally Posted by
Ridge Runner
save it phil, the myth of brush guns is nothing but BS, hitting anything of resistance will upset the bullet and change its trajectory, you have no idea where the bullet will go.
Originally Posted by
hunters_life
Phil, that was funny. Seriously! You got it absolutely 100% WRONG in one sentence and 100% CORRECT in the second! Talk about covering your bases! Like Ridge said, any small branch can change the trajectory of a bullet. May just move the nose just a teeny tiny fraction but that teeny tiny fraction will present more to the wind and create a wobble making the bullet "knuckle ball" and keyhole into the target or miss or even worse gut shot. The "big heavy bullet blasting through 100 yards of heavy brush to hit precisely where aimed" is a total horsecrap myth. Another thing I am wondering about, what kind of Marlin 30/30 do you have Phil that is heavy? I've got an old Marlin 336 made in 56 that feels like carrying air! That's with wood furniture not this cheap tupperware crap they make nowadays. Granted I may be a muzzleloading guy but I own my fair share of modern rifles and that old 336 is among the lightest of my .30 cals.
Ok guys , so even though I HATE Phils political views ( Biden Voter ) I feel compelled to jump in the quicksand here and save his life !
Not about his facts on a 30-30 with a 170gr bullet though . I would not call that one a " Brush Gun " . The lighter the bullet the more it deflects . You are never going to get any bullet to shoot straight going through 100 yards of brush probably bouncing off 25-30 twigs or 1 inch branches on the way. But I've shot a few through the " Brush " and clocked them where they stood . Right through 10 -20 feet of hemlock branches, whips , and blow downs . There are only 4 rounds that I would consider being a brush gun with limitations . 1 ) Its not the gun but the load . Remington 30-06 core lokt round nose soft point in 220gr . 2) 35 Whelen in Rem core lokt .250gr or Federal trophy Bonded Bear Claw 240gr . 3) The all mighty 45-70 in 350 or 400gr Flat Nose bullet.. 4 ) My favorite. 12ga 485gr Slug ! I would probably put that slug up against any of these choices and the slug would win. I dont take that brush shot only when I have to because there is no other choice. And that 12ga slug has always worked when I needed it. But will only fire that shot if there is no other alternative .I'm a darn good shot and can usually thread the needle because I am a fanatic about having my guns perfectly sighted in .