I am really glad I don't subscribe to that opinion or I would have missed out on some great deals. Since I work on my own guns someone else's problem can usually be fixed with a little knowledge and time. I picked up a Ruger Mk II All Weather in 270 Win and after working the trigger, floating the barrel and bedding the action it will shoot .5" groups all day. Funny thing is I would have had to do the same thing to a brand new Ruger. If you want to pay extra for new then more power to you.