I had a permit in 2009 and got a moose after waiting for around 30 years. But, have been a sub on 2 other hunts and got 1 moose. So I guess I can’t complain but would love to get drawn for another one before 30 more years gets here. I doubt I would be still around by the time 30 more years comes up though.. But you can’t be drawn if you don’t put in..