I used 7 grains of Unique to poke holes on paper and 16 grains of 2400 for serious social activities IF needed.
All with the Keith 429421 in full weight of 250 grains. The Unique load will give 1000 loaded cartridges @7000
grains per pound..Hard crimp on all.This is for S&W and Colt guns only and preferably made after 1945.
Bob Roller