I'll echo what Ridge Runner said except I like Glocks. They serve a useful purpose. I'm also not putting you on ignore as I don't put anybody on ignore. If I disagree with what somebody says, I'll post why. If I don't like what somebody continues to say, at some point I simply stop responding. I don't need an ignore button to not read what somebody says. I don't begrudge people who use the ignore button. I just choose not to and don't feel a need.
You keep stating that I don't like you or "have an issue with you." Like RR, I don't have any dislike for you. I also very pointedly have not said "you're full of crap." And I don't care whether you like me or not. We're not buddies, just 2 guys posting on a forum. You say we should just disagree with you in PMs yet don't offer us the same courtesy. You're missing the point. this is a forum where people post things for others to read. Not some private messenger service where you only share your point of view with a single other person. People read these different points of view to help them decide what they think about a given issue, not to see a bunch of posts telling another member they have mail in a PM. People don't always agree on everything. That's called an adult conversation.
FWIW, I agree with you some of the time and think you make good points and advice--some of the time. Other times, you post stuff like seeing bears walking on broken front shoulders and broken rear hips. Aside from the challenges of walking with broken shoulders and hips, when a hunter shoots a bear in the shoulder and blows it out, that shot usually sends broken shards of bone through the heart, lungs, etc. It's why they refer to it as an anchoring shot. There's often a follow up shot to finish the bear but the bear isn't running away. This topic is about shooting bears with pistols, not bears who get in traffic accidents. And hunters do develop some level of expertise or this forum would be a waste of time.
Ridge Runner mentioned the thread isn't about bears getting rehab at a clinic or darted by a game commission biologist. I agree. It's about people with pistols shooting bears and the results they get. Something biologists don't do very much. It isn't about somebody using a light or frangible load in a pistol; it's about a person shooting a bear with appropriate heavy ammo in a pistol and whether the pistol is enough to stop the bear from attacking. I've met a few biologists that hunt but most of them don't so I don't usually consult them for tips on how to shoot bears. I've met a lot (maybe not tons) of guides that guide and hunt for bears. Their job is to get their client a bear and they usually give great advice and have lots of useful experience. So I'll listen to a biologist on where to look for bears, etc. but I'll listen to guides and other hunters for what it takes to kill one.
You post about knowing tons of biologists and guides. Then act like nobody else does. It's not that hard to run into and talk with a lot of biologists and guides at a hunting show. There are also several biologists and guides who write solid articles about their experiences and observations. As well as numerous hunting accounts that often state caliber, bullet selection, # of shots fired, where the shots hit and how quickly or not the bear died. And last but not least, there's personal experience. I have honestly not shot as many bears as Ridge Runner or several other hunters on the forum but my experience has been similar results to theirs. Bears don't run far if you shoot them where it counts. So again, we disagree. although I notice you finally mentioned that a Glock 20 with good ammo is sufficient for bears. Maybe there's hope.