I Dont Care for Banter , U guys ATTACK when Not Agreed with ( or Call names when it goes further - maybe Praying will be your 1st response ) B-tips work great for poachers in so-Cal camps and Oregon on an ongoing basis because they care about how many they drive home so they will have enough good meat left when they are well over Tag limits < that's MY EXPERIENCE OF THEM - REALLY . That bullet IS Sub-standard the way we Guide +/or teach . U just have broken Perceptors