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Which merely proves the fact that it does not do anything better than other cartridges. It equals them but does not surpass them and if you took the time to read my posts the Swede was only on chambering I mentioned. I also mentionedthe 260 Rem and the 6.5 Rem Mag and what you just said about the Creed does not hold ip against the 260 or the 6.5 Mag but they never got hyped up.
Bottom line is the Creed has benefitted from hype but does not bring anything magical to the table and if someone owns one of the other rounds it brings no benefit. Neither you nor NM have been able to refute thst.
The only one who has mentioned magic is you! nobody has to refute anything, the creed operates at higher pressure so gives the same performance with a smaller capacity case, operates at top level performance in a short action, the 260, both 6.5's do not, using 140 gr bullets the 260 rem. will use up a good bit of powder space for bullet storage in a short action. so why would anyone use the swede or the 260 in a long action when there is the 6.5/06, or the 6.5 Gibbs which will outrun the 264 win mag by 200 fps using 9 gr. less powder.
another point is how many rifles are available today in the chamberings you are touting as just as good? if you don't want a creed, don't get one, if you don't have a 6.5 and want one there are a bunch of rifles chambered for the creed. how many 6.5x55 are available? 260? 6.5 rem mag?