I bought a Tethrd Mantis last year. Didn't get to use it for actually hunting. But I have been practicing climbing and getting set up mainly in my back yard. Hoping to get out to buddy's place where I can shoot my rifle from it. I do a lot of public hunting and I use a kayak to get into some of the lesser accessible areas. I found it much easier to get up a tree with a saddle than with a climber. And I can be more flexible with the choice of trees that I want to get up in.