I took my PA elk after 17 years of making application with a 30-06 150grn bullet at 155 yards, one shot in the crease of the shoulder, she stumbled then fell about 2 minutes later no more than 3 feet from where I hit her. i was planning to use my 45-70 but I short stroked it at a target shoot set up by the outfitter the day before the season opened so he and his guides could see how well we shoot. I was sick. My guide was a good friend and he lent me his rifle.