You must be trying to start a discussion on pistol caliber carbines. Can't really tell with your formatting but I'll join in.

All my kids learned to shoot with a .357 levergun. It's very easy to shoot. The amount of plinking I've done with it has made a better shooter. I've taken several whitetail deer with it. Those are the reason I like a pistol caliber carbine. Personally I'm not interested in a magazine fed 9mm, 10mm, or 40 S&W. Got a 5.56 and a .450 bushmaster AR-15s for semi-auto rifles.