Man- they are ugly. But the ones I've played with are good shooters.

I'm going to be picking up and axis 2 compact sometime this spring. Boy turns 8 this fall and I think I'll take him out during the Ohio youth season. The compact has an 18" barrel and an inch shorter lop. I think he'll be able to get comfortable with it over this summer.

At first I wasn't going to get one. But as I thought about it- it's the perfect option for a youth starting out who hunts Ohio and PA.

I'll probably have some fun with it too.

No experience with the hawke scopes. The other two are good to go for sure though.

-Jake