thats the thing that gets me......i see both points.....but the thing that gets me is it wasnt even bruised badly.....i seen a good bruise from a 270...one of the only deer i actually looked at skinned.....now i open mine up and look...my '06 always bruises some meat....but my friends deer didnt even bruise badly or anything....just a plain old hole in and out....but a ballistic tip moving that fast i think would pretty much acted like a 55grain HP....just explode....i mean its a little heavy....but 180s open in deer perfectly....i dont see why a 200gr wouldnt open cruising 1000fps more then the 180s out of a 3006 or whatever....i can see both sides of the case.....its just hard to say.....now if it was a BIG bullet like a big soft nose...id definently say he shot it and it was designed for elephants not deer....but a 200gr ballistic tip.......its hard to say......but when they hit the mud around the target he was missing it was just exploding like a bomb was in the bullet.......nothing like a 3006 or anything "small" does.....ive never seen anything like it...so i really dont know......anyone else??