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Old 02-11-2020 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Valorius
I am completely unconvinced that a short light single action trigger with no safety on a gun designed to be carried in your pocket is "much better" for CCW use.
The LCP II is not a “short, light single action trigger.” It’s a single action trigger with heavy springs and an EXTREME positive angle sear. Comparatively, the Gen 2 LCP and the LCP II have very similar trigger pull weights. The triggers do feel different, a more linear curve in the LCP II design and a bit shorter. But nobody will pretend the LCP II has even a poor quality single action trigger by the standards of a 1911, or even a Ruger Mark Series trigger. In fact, due to the camming action of the Gen II DAO design, the pull weight of the Gen II LCP is actually a bit lighter right before the break than the LCP II trigger, so I would imagine many shooters who “stage” their triggers would shoot the Gen II LCP better than they would the LCP II.

Simply put - the LCP II has more safeties than the Gen I or II LCP, and is no more or less vulnerable to ND by an object entering the trigger guard.

Originally Posted by Valorius
There is no disputing the LCP II would shoot much nicer groups, but that is not much concern for a CCW gun, IMO.
On target, any difference between my LCP II or Gen II LCP is purely incidental - although personally, with some color appliqué, I can see the Gen II LCP sights better than I can the LCP II sights, such in my hands, my LCP II typically doesn’t shoot as small as my Gen II LCP. Again, we’re talking about similar trigger pull weights, similar sight radius and poor sight design inherent to micro pistols - the trigger pull on the LCP II is just a little shorter, but still exceptionally long.

Originally Posted by Valorius
The LCP II trigger mechanism is basically a Glock copy, action wise. What do Glock owners say all the time? "The holster is the safety.”
I have never met a Glock owner who has ever said this - as Glock owners are typically informed sufficiently to know their pistols have three safety mechanisms. I have often heard other Glock-critics make the same silly statement, however.

Equally, the LCP II isn’t a Glock-type action, not any moreso than is a 1911 at least. The LCP II is a hammer-fired pistol which utilizes a trigger bar: a linkage-type sear. It’s rather unique in design, but not a Glock striker fired design. However, like the Glock striker fired design, which is technically a non-repeating-trigger DAO design, the LCP II is safe to carry with its internal safeties and a simple holster which covers the trigger guard - just like all DA and DAO revolvers and pistol ever built.

I do favor the grip feel (with Hogue monogrip) and the sights of the Gen II, and the aesthetics of the Gen II as well, but there’s really a lot of illogical and incorrect bad hype flying around the internet about the LCP II by folks who really don’t understand the design, and I expect have never even held one in their hands.
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