Thanks Lewis, I kind of thought that but ya never know what you can learn. I've never shot PP in my muzzle loaders , only my Sharps rifles. I'm a firm believer in 1 damp and 2 dry patch's when swabbing. In my Sharps loads I use a 3/16 grease cookie between 2 card wads behind the PPB and I can get several shots off if needed. Otherwise I swab between shots. A friend just gave me a old hollow base bullet mold that is grease grooved. I'm gonna try it but Ive never pan lubed a hollow based bullet before.