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Old 07-28-2019 | 05:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Mike Salyards
Do you think the ppb would stay in place to hunt with in a muzzleloader?
This is UNDOUBTEDLY my biggest “Pet Peeve” (For lack of better words) With my Paper Patch Bullets. Truth is, It really boils down to what each of us trust to Stay put in our Guns? I have done extensive Tinkering/Testing with these PP Bullets trying to gain confidence in them to Stay put on the Powder Charge during a Hunt, This was for MY OWN personal “peace of mind”. From “Bump Testing” To Tightening PP Bullet Fit. I have came up with 2 ways of tightening them up in the Bore that Work EXTREMELY well, Reliable and Repeatable, With these methods I would ABSOLUTELY Trust them to Stay Put on the Powder Charge, But along with that came another Challenge, at least for me Using Real Blackpowder (Swiss) That is Reloading a PP Bullet Down a Swiss Fouled Bore, Swiss Powder leaves a Dry Rough fouling, especially after Shooting a BONE DRY Paper Patch Bullet (Humidity etc. I suspect can be a Factor here, Here in Idaho we are MUCH Dryer than say the Wa Coast) When i try And Reload a Good SNUG fitting PP Bullet Down a Swiss Fouled Bore, I could safely compare it to Trying to Push that Bullet Down a Bore coated with 80 Grit Sandpaper, You can feel it Strip the Paper off (The Paper Patch Don’t stand a Snowballs Chance in Hell!) Then you reach the Crud Ring, Any possible Remaining Paper Patch will be Finished off here! The Only way i can See to Combat The Fouled Bore is to Quickly Swab the Bore with a pre soaked Alcohol Patch Carried in a Sealed Container of some sort? Then Dry Patch, And Reload, This is BY FAR the Safest bet to insure the Paper Jacket makes the Trip down the Bore To the Powder Charge INTACT. Definitely not ideal in a Reload Situation on a possible Wounded Critter.

In the end, I really prefer my Paper Patch Bullets for My Target/Bench Rest Shooting, Where i have Full Control, and in NO Hurry to Swab, and Dry the Bore Good Before i reload (My Target isn’t going anywhere)

When it comes to a Bullet that i Personally can WHOLE Heartedly Trust to STAY SOLID PUT on the Powder Charge Day in, and Day Out, and Be able to Shove down a Swiss Fouled Bore, That will be 1 of my Many Grease Groove Bullets. As for accuracy between the 2 bullet Types (Grease Groove vs Paper Patch) Paper Patch can be Flat out AWESOME, But no more So than a Good Grease Groove, I have proven it OVER N OVER that a Good Grease Groove Bullet will Shoot Right with, and in More Cases than not, They Beat My Paper Patch.

I love Both Bullet Types, and shoot a TON of Both every year. Just 2 different Applications, 2 Different Ways to Send Lead Down Range, Both can be WICKED Accurate when you put the time in, and have everything right
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