I love the old Phantoms you mention. I got my first 6 from the screw machine house in WI that was making them for Stan Lurowski (Elk Mountain archery) before he died and Muzzy bought the design and name from his widow. I killed 7 deer with one phantom head. Shoot, sharpen and repeat 7 times with a single broadhead. Its a great 4 blade head at 125 grains and with a heavy brass insert to boost the weight and FOC, a great killer 4 blade.