Originally Posted by
bronko22000
All I'm saying from the start is there is really no need for a 175 gr BH unless your plan on taking on cape buffalo or elephant.
For them Id use perhaps an 800 / 900 grain arrow/broadhead combo. For my Water buff last year I used a 700 grain total arrow weight with a 250 grain broadhead (and I even pinned the arrow right) Its was a dual wall aluminum a 2317 with a 2117 inside of it. I talked to the guide about bowhunting gear for water buff and asked if its possible to get a pass through. He laughed and said it wont happen. He has never seen an arrow come out the other side of a water buff due to the rib size and overlapping nature and because they are so wide across the chest.
I got a pass through even with me hitting a rib. Momentum rules. KE was of no value. I was properly setup in advance.
This is the exit shoulder. You don't go through the ribs and exit the shoulder on this sized animal with 450 grain dart.
The entrance side shoulder. LOL at considering a 450 grain arrow.
Originally Posted by
bronko22000
Use whatever you decide. But my opinion is that much weight is not needed.
No animal was ever lost because the arrow got too much penetration. Many are lost due to a lack thereof.
Originally Posted by
bronko22000
And for the average Joe who doesn't have the cash flow to always buy new arrows has, as an example is shooting 60# and a 28" shaft (say gold tip) shooting a 100 gr head the chart recommendation is for a 400 spine. ( IMO a 340 would be better). Now if he should put a 175 gr head on there which the chart doesn't even show he would have to lower his poundage down as far as the bow could go because the chart recommends a draw wt in the mid to high 40s.
I laughed. I have arrows and broad heads that make up a 450 grain setup, arrows and broadheads for a 560 gain setup, Arrows and broadheads for a 700 grain setup. Dovetail sights for each setup all out of the same bow and off the same rest.
The arrow I used for my Gator a few months ago was just over 1,400 grains. I took a shot at a gator larger than this one from a distance of 12 feet. I was slightly above him. I bounced off because I hit a scute on his back.. even when I got this guy I only got about 10 inches of penetration.
If I were so unfortunate to only hunt small game like deer and black bear, I would just have a 560 grain TAW setup out of my 65 pound bow with a 4 blade head.