You can say these things about any bad deer management state in the country. Ya it is not impossible to luck out and find a secluded honey hole. It’s just that if you think if you go to the most remote nasty thick spot on some remote WA and that will make everything good you are sorely mistaken. Statewide mismanagement degrades even the most remote places. 30 years of hunting 12 states including IL, KS, IA, IN has more than proven that to me. The more liberal the state, the more hunters are in those remote places or already hunting adjacent private. Any year I have solved the IL puzzle, the next year there’s a guy there and it’s time to start searching again. Been there done that. Iowa is the last man standing. Nothing even remotely close.