One shop told me when they checked that they are not in stock anywhere and that they never get a straight answer from Browning when ever they ask when they will be.That is any weapon from Browning.Another large shop a couple hundred miles away said they have em on order but never knows when Browning will ship em.They all say Browning is terrible with given info on status on firearms.There is a fella also a couple hundred miles away from me that has a Ithaca Mag 10 but has,t figured out a price yet.The one shop told me the Mag 10 can be hard to find parts for and that the Rem SP10 has better parts availability.