They aren't total garbage. They are exactly what they are marketed to be. A cheap firearm, with American parts and assembly.

But you have to understand that you're buying a $110 Pistol. And have $110 expectations. (Or whatever they cost these days)

I don't own any of the pistols, but have shot quite a few. Some have run flawlessly, some have had jamming issues. But the warranty will repair or replace whatever is wrong.

I do have one of their carbines in 9mm. Its not something that I purchased, but got it in trade for some work I did. It runs any ammo you feed it. And I've only ever sprayed it down with wd40. It's never had A proper cleaning since it came into my possession.

It holds acceptable groups for a truck gun, under 4" at 100 yards. And I've shot a variety of critters with it. Including a coyote at about 130 yards.

The Main point here is.... What do you expect from a cheap firearm? The main criticisms I see are from people saying they're junk, they're not a Glock, they're ugly, etc. And they are right, they aren't a Glock..... They aren't marketed as such either.

The other thing I see is people say (and this would be my advice as well to somebody asking) "don't buy a cheap pistol, save another hundred or two and buy a used s&w, Ruger, Glock etc. " But again.... They aren't marketed to compete with Ruger, s&w, Glock etc. They are marketed to be a $110 pistol. Which is exactly what they are.

I have no problem with somebody building cheap things. They might not be anything that I want to own.... But I'm not going to jump up and down saying "they're garbage they're garbage!"

They are exactly what they're marketed as.

As a side note everything I've heard about their warranty is exceptional. They pretty much replace whatever is broken for free.

-jake