I agree, I was originally wanting a lighter grained small caliber round.

Went out last Saturday and actually shot at 100 yards 200 yards and 300 yards. People would be suprised at how far 300 yards is? Man thats far! I deffinitely have to get a higher powered scope and would probably miss all together at 400 yards.

My ballistic pattern at 100 was three inches high, at 200 was near dead on and at 300 was I guess somewhere around 8-10 inches low. This is shooting a hot load in .270 with 130 grain. Scope was a 3x9 redfield. At 300 yards I had problems with keeping the cross hairs on the target but wasn' t in a comfortable shooting position.

I have always under estimated at how far those long range shots really are and I will always from now on consider those people that tell me they shoot game at 600 and 800 yards a mear lier. If I had to guess at how far 600 and 800 yards was, would in reality only be 300 and 400 yards away from the target. So those that think they are 600 and 800 yards away was probably a bit closer and should consider a range finder of some sort.

I didn' t have a range finder but used a wheel that counted feet to figure the range.