another good deer caliber would be the 450 bushmaster. here in ohio straight walled only . i have'nt met a deer that got away from the 450 bushmaster.the call it the thumper. all my deer have been drt.even consider a single shot. cva got them for 239 & up with a scope your still around 350. i got a couple of the cva's & they pretty nice guns . going to get a traditions 450 hopefully soon.