i believe i will stick with my barnes bullets the tez & 300 gr hollow points mz's just was wonder about the traditions . everything i've smacked with the barnes all have gone down like a cheap date . no need to worry about a plated bullet & it's fragments. i think this year i'm going back to muzzleloader for deer gun week. just enjoy the 1 shot challenge . used a 450 bushmaster last year. yes it was a thumper but i just like muzzleloaders better .