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6.5 Creedmoor vs 308I'm looking to purchase a new rifle. I'm looked through forums at nosia trying to compare 6.5 vs 308. The information I'm truly looking for I cant find. That is these 2 calibers at close range. I like the idea of the 6.5 for less recoil. But how does it do from 20-200 yards where most my Wisconsin hunting shots occur. Every time I Google the 2 all I get is how superior the 6.5 is at long range. But what about your normal 70 yard shot. Or even 20. Would love to hear from you guys/gals on this matter. Would probably shoot 143 eld x out of the creed or 150 accubond out of the 308.
I just spent the morning at the local range, one of the guys I hunt with , recently purchased a nice synthetic stock, savage in caliber 6.5 creed,
rather similar to this one Ill link too, and he has a Nikon scope mounted
https://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperst....cfm/ID/205689
https://www.midsouthshooterssupply.c...e-matte-finish
the rifle is certainly accurate, off the bench, but once he had it well sighted in, I suggested he try a few shots from a sitting position.......if he does not put a great deal more practice time in
...well, lets just say, a deer would need to be rather down on his luck, to get hit, past about 200 yards because from what I just saw,
a 2ft x 2 ft paper cardboard backer was not getting hit very often, let alone the target, once he got off the bench rest
the equipment's excellent, the equipment's operator skills need serious improvement.
most guys won,t admit the fact that those 1" or less groups are impressive, but once your forced off the bench rest thats not what the combo of rifle and its operator can produce in the field.
theres no way you could reasonably dispute the fact that the 6.5mm creed has a bit flatter trajectory,
but so does a 270 win, all but meaningless when most guys under field conditions could not place shots consistently in a 6" circle at 100 yards on their first shot if their lives depended on the results.
debating trajectory might seem important, but after decades of hunting and watching myself and others shoot, I think ,
a great deal more time and effort spent learning your rifles trajectory and learning to shoot well from a quickly acquired field position takes precedent.
the finest equipment is limited by the operators skill and dexterity, and the original post tends to indicate shots over 200 yards will be rare.
308 wins ammo is cheaper to find much more common ammo, and has a long successful record of successful use.
the difference in recoil will be minimal , a larger and even marginally heavier projectile will generally produce a more lethal wound on deer and hogs etc. the only advantage the 6.5mm has is marginally flatter trajectory and youll see almost zero advantage under 200 yards
the 308 win will push a 150 grain bullet about 150 fps faster than a 147 grain creedmoor
you could reasonably expect less than 3 ft lbs difference in recoil in similar rifles
Id be surprised if you see any real difference if either choice is used for either hunting or targets at under 200 yards
http://www.shooterscalculator.com/recoil-calculator.php
http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmrecoil-5.1.cgi
https://www.hornady.com/team-hornady...alculators/#!/
http://www.handloads.com/loaddata/default.asp?Caliber=308%20Winchester&Weight=All&ty pe=Rifle&Source=
https://press.hornady.com/assets/sit...147gr-data.pdf