they are perfect in both hardness and penetration.
You sure wouldnt want to test that chilled lead stuff because those bullets are real hard.
No expansion pete? you are full of pooper scoopers! The bullet I tested expanded to .696" diameter. Then again, if they pan caked flat, we'd hear how useless these conicals are because they flattened out and did not exit... right?
The whole argument you 2 made about them was that you both claim Ron shot one of the frosty chilled lead bullets.
Im perfectly happy with the bullet results and hardness. Lead pipe must run a we bit harder, but still perfect for both patched ball and these conicals.