I have never had a year that I did not get at least one deer with the rifle. I have however came up empty a few times with the Muzzle loader. The muzzle loader season is after rifle season and at times its a little hard to get close enough by this time of year to get a good shot. I hunt on the prairies. If there is quite a little snow however I can climb up on one of the landowners haystacks toward evening and get one when they come to raid the haystack. There are always plenty of landowners willing to let me get rid of a deer or two this way. Our muzzle loader season is antlerless deer only and was set up to reduce the doe populatio which is huge.