i own a treelounge. they are kinda heavy (20 pounds) plus the bow adapter (like 5 pounds) but i love it. i bought it because my friend told me that you spend most the time in the tree. i dont go in too far b/c i am in NJ. i lent it to my friend and he hated it. he sed it was too heavy. i am a high school football player and am pretty fit, plus with the padded straps its not too bad. overally find what you want in a stand. i chose comfort and safety and have never looked back. my dad bought a viper and loves it. it is a personal choice. i like chevy blazers, he likes his f-150. its the same thing. all personal choice.