Originally Posted by
Nomercy448
Personally, for hunting 200yrds and less, especially varmints and coyotes, I'd go with the 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC. For years, the 6.8 was the better option because ammo and brass were hard to find for the Grendel, but the last few years, this has swapped.
The heavies like the 450B or 458soc are fun, but they drop a LOT. As Ridge mentioned (and I agree), the 458soc generally has the advantage of more good hunting bullets in the market, but the 450B does have the advantage of using cheap pistol bullets for practice - and since you have that 460S&W, you'd be able to share bullets between the two.
The new 22's for the AR are impressive, but when you compete for economy with the 223/5.56, and consider the performance needed for 0-400yrd coyote killing, I just can't find a need for either the Valkyrie or the Nosler in my safe. Just too hard to compete with the availability and affordability of 223/5.56 brass and ammo.
In your shoes, I'd get one well featured lower, then two uppers, one in 223/5.56 the other in 6.5, 6.8, or 450B. My latest two AR's for myself have been this way - multiple uppers for one well featured lower, each. One lower has matching 223/5.56, 204R, and 6.8SPC uppers, and the other lower has matching 223/5.56 and 6.8SPC uppers. I'm currently building a complete 458 Socom rifle as well though, as a complete rifle. Any of them would swap around, of course. I have enough lowers to have fun with friends when I want, so I really don't need to spend extra money on more lowers, just more uppers. A guy is usually better off getting ONE $500 lower than having two $250 mil-spec lowers.
Having watched your range report threads, I'd expect you'd get more mental satisfaction from the 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC than the 450B. You'll see 15-20" drop at 200yrds from the 450B or 458soc, so it's a bit much to manage.
So I'd really recommend one lower with two uppers, one in 5.56/223 and the other in 6.5 Grendel or 6.8SPC, or 450Bush if I can't talk you off of a heavy.
I've actually been considering a third upper at some point chambered in a more potent bottleneck cartridge, like an Olympic Arms 25 WSSM, but if that didn't work out the Grendel would probably be my next choice. Still want that 450 Bushmaster more than anything. You correctly guessed why I want a 450 instead of a SOCOM: I'm already set up to reload another .452" cartridge - 460 S&W - which takes many of the same components. Also, based on the velocities I've seen posted from a 450, it seems like it would match my Model 460 almost exactly in performance.
Well, I guess I don't necessarily
need a 223 upper, but then again I don't really need something for long range shooting. My 270 covers that niche. Unless the AR ends up being more accurate.
Originally Posted by
hunters_life
Or you could go a little nuts and go with an AR-10 variance with all the long range cartridges there are for it. You can then go with a 6.5creed or a 260rem and really reach out and smack some coyotes if the need arises and either would be good deer medicine for close or far off. If you are stuck on 15 though, I have .223, 6.8spc (2 of them with dad's old one) and dad's .458socom. As Nomercy said, the 6.8 would get my nod over all of them for your needs but the .458 sure does slap a hog into the dirt post haste. I don't think he ever grease spotted a coyote with it though he did behead a squirrel that was pissing him off with it.
I've thought about that, too. A 6mm or 6.5mm Creed upper and a 45 Raptor upper would make one awesome combination.
AGH! So many options, but not nearly enough money for all of them!