I have no current needs, it is not I that has a dislike for CVA. If my questions have been answered multiple times I would have had no reason to ask them. I am not going to try to twist your arm, but you have still not given a reasonable answer as to why you bash CVA as much as you do, for no apparent reason. As you stated you have never owned one and have no intention to, where does your personal dislike for CVA come from, definitely not from a personal experience with CVA. No problem, I can live with no answers. You just have nothing to justify your utter disregard and dislike for CVA or your bashing of them. I won't bother you anymore.