bought one of those vortex pistol @ a gun shop brand new for 200 bucks & can't use it for muzzy hunting but can use it to hunt squirrels & etc but not legal for deer . i lovethis gun same exact one that is pictured. having a hard time finding scope rail mount it's a 183a. finally may of found one & will be putting a scope on it. i shoot 70 grains of bh209 & a barnes300 grain expander hollow point.love this set up can't wait to put a scope on it. and i just found out that i can use it on a christmas tree farm for deer damage. i talked to traditions & they say my load is good up to 100 yrds. but they recommend staying withing 75yrds.