Originally Posted by
zrexpilot
I saw a 300 wsm fail to pass through no less than 10 animals this year, the creed blew through 10 this year, hardly a pop gun, you know what we had to do to the wsm to get a pass through ? run 50 dollar box ammo of barnes to acheive what 20 dollar box ammo out of the creed does. saw the 25-06 fail to pass through a does head this year too.
you really need to take notes on what your seeing, all bullets are not created equal, but even thinner skinned bullets will penetrate better at slower speeds. High velocity impacts will cause any bullet to fail, I have saw 257 diameter nobler partitions fail to penetrate a gallon jug of water at 500 yards from just too much speed. both rounds you mention are faster than the creed, the only thing that the creed has accomplished is let folks shoot some fairly accurate factory rifles, thats all it has going for it, decent rifles with decent ammo, but not up to par with the good custom made stuff. Its ok, but not the end all to do all, a 260 rem. with a good barrel will shoot rings around it all day.
RR