Originally Posted by
54bore
Sabotloader, Thank you for that info! That makes good sense and i can see how it would definitely work!! But I wonder how this would work with real blackpowder, or a sub like Pyrodex? A blued barrel will start to rust fairly quickly after being shot with real BP, and I've heard Pyrodex is worse yet? I have no experience to speak of with the Pyrodex, i just recently bought a can of Pyro P to try like Idahoron uses.
I am not sure why Ron is using any of the Pyro's - to me - T7 is such a better powder for sub use, burns so much cleaner with caps. Real BP & the Pyros powders are so much more corrosive than T7 + being combined with a blued barrel - I have not got a good answer with a lot of experience. When I shoot PRB's at Rondys using GOEX - I really do about the same routine and I add a routine when I pump flush the Snail, breech/powder chamber of a sidelock by sticking it into tupper ware container of Windex... then do the bore as I normally do. The big thing is to neutralize the residue acids and then keep the bore dry. Corrosion can not occur without moisture. The old boys in the old days knew this and protected their bores by keeping them dry not cleaned.
Swabbing would obviously help a TON, but what about in the barrel Grooves, and the Snail, Patented Breech/Powder Chamber of a Sidelock? I use the blue windex with ammonia as well for my swabbing between shots, I actually mix mine 50/50 Blue Windex/91% isopropyl Alcohol to aid in faster drying.
I did try the Alcohol thing for a period of time and for myself did not find any real advantage so I stopped several years ago. Although there are a lot of people that use the Alcohol routine for a reason.
The only Montana Extreme product that i have used is their bore polishing compound and it is REALLY GOOD stuff!! (Would be their Equivalent to JB Bore paste) I will have to get some of the Montana Extreme bore conditioner and give it a try. I Have been wanting to try their copper remover as well in my Centerfires
I have not looked or tried their bore cleaner to see if it was petroleum free. When I want an aggressive bore cleaner I use Barnes CR-10. But in my normal cleaning routine I use Birchwood Casey 2-in-1 Bore Cleaner. It has worked really well but it does have a small amount of BCasey Barricade in it and it does have some petroleum in it.
I have purchased a new product 100% synthetic to try in the future. Hoppes is now making a Hoppes #9 Synthetic Blend that I really want to try.
This doesn't really show you much but this is my cleaning routine for the bore - whether it be an inline or a sidehammer. Of course you can not use the bore snake with a sidehammer but you can just run a X-treme bore conditioner patch instead of the snake with bore conditioner on it. This is all it takes even after a range trip involving up to 20 shots.
