Originally Posted by hunters_life

Just so I'm clear, it's the 230gr .451 that I want to get for my Renegade right? I think Alex wants to try them out in her Impact as well. Those .458 220gr Lehighs shoot great out of her impact but loading them is just a bit of a struggle for her. Even with the crush rib sabots. But they size nicely for the smokeless demon spawn and I have a screaming load for them. They just don't shoot well past 200 yards. 200 and in I can cover the group with a quarter. At around 250 it's starting to shotgun. But it is a rare even that I have a shot past 200 on whitetail anyway so that will be fine.