They are pretty much the same thing just anodized right? With the old man's Thompson Center Pro Hunter and that demon spawn smokeless I am going to be looking for different loading jag head for the different bullet profiles I will be shooting with them. I was looking at one of those fancy dancy Spin Jags and the old man had several different jags in the shop. But I will be needing one with a deep inset for the pointy bullets and the one he had in there for hollow point bullets doesn't really fit well for those Lehigh bullets.