Incorrect again ronlaughlin. I haven't used them but the old man gave a few of them a shot and I have witnessed for myself the horrible penetration of several powerbelt weights and models including the 338plat. I have also seen the horrible reports online about them. The simple and inarguable fact is, they are a pure lead conical bullet that has an extremely light jacket if you can even call it a jacket. Bullet making isn't rocket science people. Pure lead doesn't hold up at speed when confronted with bone. Just why do you think the copper jacket was invented? It surely wasn't to make the damn bullet pretty. Electroplating copper onto lead doesn't do much of anything to increase the strength or better control the opening.
ronlaughlin, you will find I am very much like my old man. I don't speak from just what others have said. If I am in a subject, you can bet it will be from personal experience on things I have either been directly involved in or personally witnessed for the most part. I may pad my experience with research just to make sure my ducks are in a row but you can bet I will have personal knowledge.
MountainDevil54, you trying to say I haven't taken 10 black bears weighing in over 400 pounds? And another 11 over 300? My very first black bear was taken in the Smokies in 1979 and weighed in at 342 pounds. Taken with a .30-30 Marlin at approximately 70 yards. I was a crusty old age of 12. Even back then I didn't shoot the little ones. The old man damn near made me pass on that one. I would have probably kicked him in the shin and shot it anyway but it was a close call. My largest was 508 pounds taken in almost the same area in 1989 with a .30-06 at 110 yards. Never insult my integrity MountainDevil54.