I am 68 and been deer hunting long time I think a lot of hunters buy tink s and other well known lures my way of thinking is there is so much of that in woods deer have to think man is here I smell that stuff again I don t care to draw then I use nat dirt leaves dig up fresh track cedar shavings put in freezer bags poke holes in it and put in gear my concern is locate deer then mother nature do rest got 1 other secret give later