Thanks for the encouragement, Im sure it will evolve into something great. Im not to worried about it as I had to learn pheasant the same way and did exactly how you said. Just spent tons of time looking and trying different things to see what happened. I for sure chased away a fair amount of birds that way but loved the fact that I had learned something. I have made private land contacts and at least see birds on most of my outings now days.

I am for sure not opposed to doing it that way, just thought it was worth a shot seeing what I can gain by asking here. I do understand I am a new member here and that fact may prevent a lot of people from giving advice right away. I will just keep updating here and build something and hopefully be able to keep growing as a hunter of all species. Thanks again ill keep updating as I can.