Originally Posted by
Gm54-120
This was never about hating on UF or pellets. Its just very obvious that the rules are tailored to favor a 50cal and a "hot rod" 50cal for that matter. So that leaves us with 3 main competitors when you get to cherry pick "production" standards.
You are left with UF, Cooper and Remington.
Not many 45cal shooters will opt for shooting sabots. Even the conical 45 shooters fair very well against sabot shooters in timed events. Some mighty fine scores have been shot with a SuperDISC and conicals. I can think of only 1 that has done exceptionally well with sabots and that was Jason in New Mexico at a regional event.
Considering the 300 yard event and sabot only requirement. You have to wonder why when very few true production rifles will compete well under those conditions. The rules certainly favor 1 brand in particular and its made in Michigan. I cant imagine why they would exclude full bore lead conicals for any other reason but to remove 45cals from the competition.
The Ultimate is dying fast. Its a publicity thing i assure you. It wouldnt surprise me if they are sponsoring the association to do this. Everything is political anymore like it or not.
As far as sabots go, the best shooter wont win using sabots. There are two many inconsistencies and variables with sabots that you cant control.
The 300 yard shooting with sabots is obviously a way to enhance the ultimate ML. I think most people are way to smart to buy into that. But, dont count out the Mountaineer against all those manufactures. Its a great bench ML.
obviously things are deleted in this thread. Were can i get a copy of the new rules??