Originally Posted by
Grouse45
I suggest you understand more about what your doing. I didn't realize you were breaking so many scopes until a post I saw of yours recently. Rifle scopes are made to handle recoil no question. But rifle scopes are mainly recoiling back fast. So they are basically made to be protected from breaking in back ward recoil. When your using a brake that all Changes depending on caliber and pressures. Some will say the brake does not create reverse recoil, but in a big way I think it does. Most aren't protected in both directions for recoil. I use four rings on my pellet gun. But never even had to consider that with a CF rifle or Muzzleloader. Understanding the basics of what your doing, is really gonna end all your problems. Look for some educated shooters, mainly competition shooters and they will educate you on what scope is best for what your doing. It will save you time and money as well.
I would suggest, I'm pretty certain I know what I'm doing. I have numerous friends who shoot competition and are extremely well educated and versed in making barrels, building rifles, mounting scopes and extreme accuracy. A few of them are standing record holders in many forms of shooting, from .22 pistols and rifles, military pistols and rifles, muzzleloader shooters and BPCR shooters. A good friend I shoot with at times, also a winning record holding scope shooter, shoots some CF rifle at 100yds at a target the size of this: o using a 42x scope and a 6oz trigger. Two friends hold standing records with multiple firearm types. Everything from Camp Perry to Governor's Cup winners. Believe me when I say, I'm well taken care of when it comes to competition shooters that can educate.
Muzzle brakes can and many times will, change the POI, between with and without them. However, the muzzle brake has nothing to do with causing a scope to break and certainly none of mine. Tens of thousands of rifles are fitted with muzzle brakes.
I'll clear something up about past broken scopes. For instance the Nikon Monarch scopes I've busted, none of which a muzzle brake was involved. One has to understand that I put many thousands of rounds down range with those scopes. Not just 20-50 rounds a year, but up to 2,000 rounds a year. So in reality, the Nikons, although they were each repaired twice, held up pretty well come to think about it.
The VX6 was mounted correctly and held for over a 1,000 rounds before breaking the first time. The second time, with the best and strongest mount and rings Leupold makes, less than 100. Maybe it was "that" individual scope as the tech suggested at Leupold, but it failed the second time.